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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/789-Up....

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2009-02-11 20:02:46
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I heard on the radio that she is trying to get a reality tv show — OMG!

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2009-02-11 20:10:16
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2009-02-11 20:12:50
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Mortgagefreakshow
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I think I heard they named their dog "Skittles". I heard the dog is pregnant and is going to have 14 puppies. All the kids and puppies can all share the Alpo for dinner.

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2009-02-11 20:16:24
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Karl-

I thought of you when I saw her interview on NBC last night. This woman is my nominee for the poster child for what is wrong with America today.

She is educated, she is eloquent, she is convicted, and she is completely wrong on so many levels.

Thank you, once again, for so skillfully pointing out the truth.

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2009-02-11 20:19:53
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Loved it, thanks KD.

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I SEE DEBT PEOPLE.
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= Personal responsibility.

2009-02-11 20:28:46
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Now that my hot button has been pushed, here I go. I live in Kentucky, which is recovering from a big ice storm. My wife teaches in the public schools. Tonight at dinner she tells me about the kids with $80 dollar nail jobs, iPhones, and cars asking to go to the school social worker so they can get money to pay their parent's heating bills. They get the money. What the he** kind of lesson is that? I remember growing up in Chicago, if you didn't have the money to pay a heat bill, you turn the thermostat down and bundle up. This giveaway crap is really old, and it is going to be bugging the tar out of me while I do my taxes next week. I think, I'll fill the Turbo Tax box with tea bags and send it to the Sec of the Treasury. Arghh!

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2009-02-11 20:39:34
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Freightshakr
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This is from reuters
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – California's octuplets mom, already jobless and receiving food stamps, has gone into hiding with her six older children because of death threats, her spokesman said on Wednesday.

Nadya Suleman, 33, has come under mounting public ridicule for expanding her already large family via fertility treatments that led to the January 26 birth of six boys and two girls at a Los Angeles-area hospital.

That criticism has mushroomed as it was reported that she was divorced, living with her parents, unemployed for several years, receiving disability checks for three of her children -- one of whom is autistic -- and collecting nearly $500 a month in food stamps.

She acknowledged those circumstances in a series of NBC television interviews but insisted in a segment aired on Tuesday on "Dateline NBC" that she was "not living off any taxpayer money" and that assistance she now receives is temporary

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The first molotov ****tail that lands in the lobby of some Wall Street bank will be a game changer. Go long beer bottles,rags and gasoline.
2009-02-11 20:39:56
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I wonder who is holding the short end of that $50,000 student loan?

O yea it's us, I forgot.

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2009-02-11 20:46:00
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Fidgit
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Freight, I wonder if that's true, or if it's just more hype to rev up a potential audience for whatever show she might do... (or both!)

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I say it's spinach, and I say the hell with it.
2009-02-11 20:46:07
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Freightshakr
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Fidgit,
I dont know the answer to that,more then likely to get more attention.
her statement of the welfare being temporary is somewhat true...when cali goes bust her welfare runs out aint that going to be a bitch!

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The first molotov ****tail that lands in the lobby of some Wall Street bank will be a game changer. Go long beer bottles,rags and gasoline.
2009-02-11 20:59:32
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I haven't kept up on this story because it disgusts me. But truly it was the state who planted the seeds? You gotta be ****ing kidding me. Tell me this is not true.

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"These are interesting times. We don't trust the government, we don't trust the legal system, we don't trust the media, and we don't trust each other! We've undermined all authority, and with it, the basis for replacing it! It's like a six-year-old's dream come true!"


2009-02-11 21:16:34
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Pika-steph
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For those of you who don't get into the Bar:

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Taxpayers may have to cover octuplet mom's costs

Feb 11 06:20 PM US/Eastern
By SHAYA TAYEFE MOHAJER
Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had, and suggesting she be sterilized.

"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

A call to Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney was not immediately returned.

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She said one is autistic, but she has not disclosed the other youngsters' disabilities, and refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The average cost for just one cesarean birth in 2006 was $22,762 in California. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. Suleman said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

A dozen states, including California, have laws requiring insurance companies to cover infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California does not require insurers to cover in vitro procedures. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.

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On the Net:

http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=....

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Publicist Confirms Octuplet Mom Gets Food Stamps After Denying Receiving Aid

CNBC Video:
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2009-02-11 21:19:29
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I heard on the radio that she is trying to get a reality tv show — OMG!


You know, there's a reason the visionary late 80s series Max Headroom has never been made available on video. It was an inadvertently released blueprint for NOW.

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2009-02-11 21:20:35
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she was "not living off any taxpayer money"

In other words, she's well capitalized.


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2009-02-11 21:23:03
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Breeder Bailout!

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2009-02-11 21:24:57
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Freightshakr
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I think this say's it all,this woman is clearly out of her ****in mind

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Suleman said she was married once. But the relationship ended when she realized "that I wasn't in love at all with him. I was in love with having children."

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The first molotov ****tail that lands in the lobby of some Wall Street bank will be a game changer. Go long beer bottles,rags and gasoline.
2009-02-11 21:30:47
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What do these two "people" have in common?













Your wallet!




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Barack Hussein Obama - The last President of the First American Revolution.
The US Congress has abdicated its role as a governing body.

The most dangerous man is the one with nothing left to lose. Our government is making more of them everyday.
2009-02-11 21:33:12
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Playing the system like a violin.

Don't know anyone that would cry if someone blew her candles out.

2009-02-11 21:47:38
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It's weird enough when some folks have 14 cats

2009-02-11 22:09:51
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Here's another story out of California that is rather, umm, illuminating as an example of what's wrong with the state's finances. Hands up if you are in favor of your tax dollars paying for this stuff via a bailout!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,4912....

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Dogs do the darndest things. They poop, they hump and they sniff in all the wrong places.

And now you can see them do all of the above every time you cross the pedestrian bridge over Interstate 80 in Berkeley, Calif., thanks to the largesse of the taxpayers.

Artist Scott Donahue of Emeryville, Calif., was paid $196,000 by Berkeley's public arts program to create two large statues, which feature small, artistic medallions that show dogs doing what dogs do best.

"Various things," Donahue said. "Biting each other, chasing each other…. One dog is defecating, two dogs are fornicating."

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Donahue was chosen by the Berkeley Civic Arts Commission — a public agency under the Office of Economic Development — to create sculptures for each end of the pedestrian bridge. His original design included 28-foot statues honoring the history and daily life of the city of Berkeley. What it didn't show were the tiny reliefs of dogs in not-so-flattering poses at the bottom of one of the statues.

"I probably had just indications of wildlife in the original application," Donahue said. "I probably didn't have the actual poses for all the reliefs."

While some citizens are growling at this apparent oversight, Berkeley civic arts coordinator Mary Ann Marker doesn't seem fazed.

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"I think they're just, you know, natural science. They're just showing what dogs really do," said Archana Horsting, executive director of the Kala Art Institute in Berkeley.

Horsting said Donahue should be applauded for his work because what he accomplished should have cost a lot more. Not only are the two statues 28 feet high, but they were built twice as strong because they are on a bridge.

Donahue, meanwhile, stands by his work and wonders what all the fuss is about.

"The main impression that people have is that this is celebrating life's vitality," he said. "The sculpture is on the one hand serious — you've got these big sculptures — and on the other hand it's playful. It's both serious and playful simultaneously."

2009-02-11 22:33:42
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I have a feeling many Californians will use whatever leeway they have in estimating their number of 'dependents' on next years taxes, instead of risking being refunded IOU's. Which, of course won't exactly help with the state's cash flow situation.

Perhaps another $billion fire season, and a crime wave resulting from all the newly dispossessed trying to afford the cigarettes Obama wants to fund America by taxing, will help straighten peoples priorities out.

2009-02-11 23:24:25
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I recommend california pass a law that states if a fertility doctor / clinic is shown to have violated any medical / ethical guidelines, the state can sue it for any damages that may result from his violation.

find a way to BILL THE F-CKING DOCTOR!

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2009-02-12 00:29:14
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Brilliant: Alimony for the Doctor

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2009-02-12 00:34:22
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Regarding http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com :

They apparently are soliciting money and ITEMS. May I humbly submit some METAL COAT HANGERS. (yes, tasteless humor)

Regarding the $196K art:

I have no problem with funding the arts... from federal/state surpluses. Let me know when we get there.

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Back from Peru. And yes, we bought some beach property there.
2009-02-12 00:38:58
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